That's not the point vs That's not why we are here

When to use each in English, with meaning, register, and examples.

That's not the point

InformalTop 5,000 (fairly common)

That's not why we are here

Beyond 10,000 (less common)
Most formal: That's not why we are hereMost common: That's not the point
 That's not the pointThat's not why we are here
Pronunciation🇬🇧 //ðæts nɒt ðə pɔɪnt//🇺🇸 //ðæts nɑt ðə pɔɪnt//🇬🇧 //ðæts nɒt waɪ wiː ɑː hɪər//🇺🇸 //ðæts nɑt waɪ wi ɑr hɪr//
MeaningThat's not the main idea or reason.We didn't come for that reason.
ExampleI know you’re angry, but that's not the point; we need to find a solution.In the meeting, she said, '***that's not why we are here***, we need to focus on solutions.'
RegisterInformalNeutral
How commonTop 5,000 (fairly common)Beyond 10,000 (less common)
Collocationsmake a point, get to the point, focus on the pointredirect the conversation, focus on the topic, group discussion
Antonyms-That's exactly why we are here, We are here for that reason, That is the purpose of our being here
Common mistakesUsing it in formal contexts where a more polite expression is needed., Misunderstanding its meaning as 'it's irrelevant' instead of 'it's not the main focus'.Using inappropriately in casual settings., Confusing the meaning with 'that's why we're here.'
Usage notesUsed to redirect a conversation focus. It's casual and often found in disagreements. Avoid in formal discussions.Use in discussions or debates when redirecting focus. Avoid when explaining reason for attendance.

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Frequently asked questions: That's not the point vs That's not why we are here

What's the difference between That's not the point and That's not why we are here?

That's not the point: That's not the main idea or reason. That's not why we are here: We didn't come for that reason.

Which is more formal: That's not the point and That's not why we are here?

That's not why we are here is the most formal of these.

Which is more common: That's not the point and That's not why we are here?

That's not the point is the most common in everyday English.

Can you show an example of each?

That's not the point: I know you’re angry, but that's not the point; we need to find a solution. That's not why we are here: In the meeting, she said, '***that's not why we are here***, we need to focus on solutions.'

Can I use That's not the point and That's not why we are here interchangeably?

Not always. That's not the point and That's not why we are here are related and overlap in some contexts, but they differ in register, how common they are, and usage, so swapping one for another can change the meaning or tone. Check the differences above before substituting.

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